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S3-Episode 7 - Double Width, Double Layers
Jane addressed the issue of the top and bottom layers not matching when she did separate layers. What should one do when the top and bottom layers donāt match up after advancing the warp on a fold on one side warp? My bottom is about 2 picks longer than the top. Iām on a table loom.
I donāt think 2 picks is going to make a difference - just make sure that your beat is the same on both layers. It should all even out in the wash.
Hate to admit this, but I'm on my fifth doubleweave, doublewidth blanket, working on 8 shafts with a basic 2/2 twill. Won't go into what I learned or failed to learn on the previous blankets, but my current confusion centers on removing a thread at the fold (or two?) so the weave structure continues along merrily on the bottom layer without doubled or missing threads. As for saying something nice, I can't say enough about how much I love Jane's emphasis on clean design, non-fussy weaving, and her willingness to share what she knows.
I'm planning my first double weave project and I'm not sure how I would finish the ends other than sewing a hem. I'd like to hemstitch and have a short fringe but I'm not sure if it's possible to hemstitch on a double weave / double wide project. If it can be done, can anyone point me to directions on how I'd do this? Thanks!
Sorry, your question slipped through the cracks :-( You'll find an explanation from Jane about hemstitching double weave in a thread under the first Double Weave video - https://www.schoolofweaving.tv/season-3-episode-7-double-width-double-layers/videos/3-7-1-designing-a-double-width-project
I did my first project using double width double weaves and I found that the bottom layer of warp lost loads of tension? I only managed to weave 1 metre length before it became unmanageableā¦
Iām using an 8 shaft Louet Jane table loom.
Any ideas why this might be happening and possible ways to correct it?
Many thanks š
Unfortunately I do not have an answer for you, as I am currently weaving my first double width blanket on the same loom. My bottom layer seems to be getting loose as well, but Iām having so many tension issues in general that I chalked it up to sticky yarn and a too-tight sett. I will be interested in reading whatever other replies you getā¦
Hi Denise,
Thank you for replying even though you donāt have a resolution- I was using 16/2 cotton, so certainly not āstickyā
I also didnāt have a too tight sett ( mine was maybe too loose!!
I re-tensioned after cutting off my first weave, and actually tried sectioning it into a smaller number of warp threads, but unfortunately the same result at the end of a yard of weaving - about a foot at the end was terrible & Iāve spent today manually fixing all the floats with a needle and an embroidery hoop !! š¤¦āāļø This was before wet finishingā¦
I am planning a project that I would like to do in double weave, so that I can have different front and back. This will be a reversible apron. I've sampled 8/2 cotton at 48 EPI to approximate what the cloth would be at 24 EPI per layer. My question: Is that a reasonable way to sample for double weave? (Note: this sett would be too stiff, so I would back it up to 20 EPI per layer.) I appreciate any wisdom you can throw my way!
Weaving that sample will be the perfect way to know whether you get the final results you are looking for. Sometimes, the only way you know you are on the right path to achieve what you are looking for is to have a sample to finish and actually look at and hold it in your hand. I hope you will share photos of your finished project, Kristen.
I have the same problem as Jill is talking about. I am using Boucle yarn and loosing tension on my bottom layer after weaving about 60 cm.
Did i do something wrong? And do you have a suggestion about how to fix this?
Jane is away on a well deserved break! My thoughts are that using the same tension solution that Jane used with Supplementary Warp, will do the job. It can be found in Season 3: Episode 8; Lesson 3 at the 1 hour 15 minute mark. Let us know if that helps.
Yes, that helped a lot, Thanks.
But next time i will not make a very long warp for double weave, only what i need for the project.
I already posted this question below the lessons but it seems this is the proper venue for it so re-posting.
Hi JST team and Happy New Year!
I've got my warp ready for the double weave as per Jane's instructions. I have a 10 and a 12 dent reed, not the 8 recommended. I see on the substitution chart I can get 16epi on a 12 dent reed but it's 1-1-2 and the reed dents seems awfully small for the Harrisville to be 2 in a dent. Can anyone advise if using the 12 dent reed is going to be problematic and perhaps cause abrasion and breakage? What about using the 10 dent and changing the epi a tad to 15 or 17 epi?
Either way would work, Leslie. Using the 10 dent reed at 15 epi would open up your cloth a wee bit, but my bet is you will hardly be able to tell once you have fulled your blanket. You could also use your 12 dent at 1-1-2. Your call š
I would like some feedback on my sample for the double width project. I see more of a division between the two sections than I would like to see. Any suggestions about how I can close this in some before proceeding on the main project? I used the method that Jane used, regarding adding some smooth yarn (I used pearl cotton) to the folded edge and then removed it after completion. (see attached photo) https://ibb.co/pLQmX31
Hi weaving friends!
I'm still a pretty novice weaver, but I'm excited to try a double width or tube project next. I think I've grasped the basic concept, but I'm a bit hung up thinking about the join.
I see the double thread issue, and get the idea of either just leaving a thread out, or pulling one/replacing one, but I think I'm missing something even more basic...
Is the problem with a join that it wants to end up looser than the rest of the cloth so you have to pay attention to keep the edge threads close enough together, or it wants to end up tighter than the rest and you have to pay attention to keep it loose enough, or some of each if you're just sloppy? I guess I'm just not sure what to be paying attention to - I suspect it's a bit of a Goldilocks situation that will make more sense once I actually try it at the loom, but thought I'd ask.
I did the edge in one colour and especially after washing i was very content. My weaving was with alpaca and the extra thread 8/2 cotton.
But my second project i did colour and weave. And even after a lot of thinking i ended up with a thread too many (after removing one). So no guarantees from my side :)
Good luck
Couldnāt wait to try this lesson, then couldnāt decide on a colour scheme from the available Harrisville wool. Soā¦. I did it in cotton instead. Lots of good lessons learned and fairly inexpensive. I used 8/8 Cotton at 7 epi, which gave a lovely thick squishy cloth but that thick thread meant that I couldnāt do much than 4ā (10cm) of weaving before my bobbin ran out and it was hard to get an invisible join, though the splicing looks better where the weft and warp were the same colour. After my 2 samples I adjusted my treadlings and got a much nicer fold for shawl/lap throw.
Canāt wait to make a double weave blanket in Harrisville next!
Beautifully done, Lisa!
Beautiful Lisa. Your color choices are simply fabulous.