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S3-Episode 2 - Cramming & Denting
I am loving this episode! I just have one question though - In Jane's explaination on how she developed the pattern for the linen scarf, she said she wanted the crammed stripes to be 1/4 inch wide, set at 48 ends per inch. But she chose to put 16 ends in each stripe (but 48/4 =12) not 12. Was this intentional? Would 12 ends have just been too thin to maintain the structural integrity of the fabric? Thanks
Hey,
I used the warp from sample #1 with Jane's Redenting for Cramming and Denting.
I slayed the "Crammed and Open" version.
Now I have 2 questions:
1. How often do I have to insert a crammed line into the weft, to get a stable shawl? Every 2 inch or is every 5 inch enough?
2. I tried to hemstich (I don't like fringes) but at the open parts, it was very loose. Any tips on how I can get it tight enough?
Hi Kristen - Jane weaves a small square and then leaves an equally sized square empty. Weaving the scarf that ways creates a stable fabric. Larger sections without weft will have warp floating around which will be catching on things as it’s worn.
Jane demonstrates hemstitching around the 14 minute mark of the first video. If you want to avoid fringes, you’ll need to weave about 1 ½ inches of solid weft, starting with hemstitching to control the end of the scarf. You’ll need enough to be able to turn it in and sew a turned hem, repeating the same thing on the other end. Hope this helps.
I have done this episode using the kit for cramming and denting. I washed in warm water with mild soap and the scarf came out very rough and not soft at all. I doubt it could be worn without scratching you to death. Did I do something wrong or is this just what linen does?
Linen wears in over time and gets softer. You don’t have to be gentle with it if you’ve used it as warp and weft. One trick that works for me when the linen is just off the loom is that I spray it well with water, wrap it in a towel, put it in a plastic bag and let it sit in the fridge for, at least, overnight. Then, give it a good press using the linen setting on your iron. Don’t get discouraged and remember that linen had been used for at least 5 thousand years for garments and household items. It just needs to be “broken in” a bit ;-)
Thank you. I’ll keep working with it. I appreciate the answer.
I am about to make a scarf following Janes cramming and denting formula. But i am confused. jane explained why its important to have only two and not four theeads in the outermost dents of the reed (to protect the selvidges). But her end count shows 24 ends in the outermost crammed sections. This works out to 4 per dent. If i put two in the outermost dent, i will have two ends “homeless” at the end of the crammed section. Is the 24 number a misprint? Or should the TWO outermost dents each have two ends per dent? Or am i just misunderstanding something.? Many thanks in advance.
I've woven Janes cramming and denting scarf using silk and cotton. Now I want to make window coverings using wet spun linen flax for the warp and possibly a soft cotton/linen (60/40) weft. My question is will the the hanging be stable enough using the cotton/line weft. Picture attached of the yarns I want to use. Thanks, Diane
I'm not able to post the picture of the yarns I'll be using for the window Covering since I can't delete the ads that are attached to the image when I copy it from IMGBB (thanks Ginette but your suggestions didn't help). I 'm hoping that by using linen for the warp and the cramming in the weft I'll have enough structure to use the softer cotten/linen blend for the rest of the weft. The window covering will be 32" x 46". Thanks for any help/advice. Diane
Another questions re to my window coverings. The set for wet spun 10/2 linen for PW is 15. If the width of my piece if 32", do I create a warp that is 15 ends per inch x the overall width (36" after adjusting for shrinkage and take up) ? That would be 540 ends. Or do I create my graphic first then determine my overall epi?
Diane
Hi Diane, I was able to see the picture of your yarns, lovely colours by the way but the image has since dissapeared. Not sure what happened there but I did click on the link you posted here and it took me to your photo!
Was the 3 balls of yarn all you have for your curtains? I was thinking if you had more than those, would be good to do some sampling first. I like your colours, it'll make really nice curtains :)
I'm glad you got to see the pictures of the yarn I'm planning on using. I've redone my calculations for two window coverings each window 34" x 52" (allowing for heming) and I may only have enough to do one window. I am using Jane's draft as a template using crammed, open and very open denting across the width of the weaving. How often will I need to weave a section of crammed weft to maintain structural integrity in the hanging, if the final peice is 46" long? I will try to resend images of the yarn as well as the graphic I made. Thanks, Diane
two images for window covering project - graphic and yarns images
We can see the photos Diane!
I think you could easily weave 2 inches of open between your crammed weft sections.
Thanks. I’m goi g to weave a sample and will send you a pic.
Diane
I’m back and am now creating the draft for my sample window covering. The sample will be 16” wide (half the width of the final piece). I am using two colors in the warp and will use Jane’s template for cramming,open and very opened. My question is how to determine the warp color sequence and threading. Jane doesn’t explain this in her sample pdf’s. It seems to me I should create the graphic, determining how wide I want each section and then using my set for this fiber - linen 16/2- calculate how many ends I will need to thread. Is this correct? Thanks, Diane
I’m glad you are weaving a sample! Don’t forget to allow for width shrinkage, you will want to make sure you have planned enough width allowing your curtains to be washed over the years.
Thanks Sandra. I'm assuming that since my 'buried' question didn't get a response from you, you agreed with how I think I should create the graphic. Hope I'm on the right track.
Diane
Sorry, Diane - I pictured you with some graph paper or plain paper, figuring out your epi for each section. And … then establishing the total number of ends and colours that you needed for each of the crammed and dented sections in your full panel. At that point you would be ready to wind your warp. You seemed to have it all in hand 😉
Attached are pictures of the sample window covering I wove. Once I wove the sample the width turned out to be only 13" instead of 16" Should I have calculated my width after determining what my set would be for the dented and crammed sectons and not before.? WHen I drew my graphic I don't think I took that into consideration. I'm not sure Jane discussed that in her video on introducing cramming and denting. Even so I think my sets should have been looser for the dented sections. I wove with 16/2 linen. I'm going to cut this off the loom and redent with a looser sett. Will that make a difference in the overall width? Thanks Diane