In cramming and denting video Jane says she only puts 2 threads in selvedge dents. The directions show 24 threads dented at 4 per dent. If I only put 3 threads in selvedge that leaves 22 threads which won’t go equally at 4 per dent. Do I do first two dents with only two threads or ?
Thanks Catherine
2 threads not 3
Hi Catherine, Jane gives the full denting instructions on page 2 of the sample handout that comes with the Cramming and Denting episode. I would use that to sley my reed. Those instructions have been vetted by Jane and other weavers :-)
I have these instructions. However, in the video she states that she only puts two threads in the selvedge dent so that is why I am wondering about whether to do this and what it means for the other crammed dents.
its around 9:30 in the cramming and denting with linen video
I rewind that episode back to 3min or so- you’ll see Jane talk about bumpy selvedges because of the cramming weft face. She cuts the two ends on the right and the left so the selvedge looks smoother.
You might want to rewatch before snipping. Maybe you want to do a test before and after?
So sley away -the math works - then snip for a less smiley selvedge. I totally forgot this. I will have to rewatch this as well. I was thinking about doing this with this small batch of yarn I have.— cram and denting
Thanks for the clarification!
Hi Catherine, gosh, this was so long ago I had to go back and look at it again. As soon as I saw it I knew what I had done. When I wove the first piece before I cut off and tied on again I was having a bit of build up on my selvedge so I cut out two ends on those selvedge dents. They were just hanging off the back. So....I would try with 4 ends in a dent on the selvedges and if you don't like it you could pull out the first 1 and 2, it won't change your plain weave structure. BUT....we did this before we did the episode on warp faced weaving where I go into other ways of controlling the selvedges. I would try weaving it at 4 ends per dent on the selvedge, then if you are having problems, but don't assume you will, (don't look for a problem until it presents itself), then watch the selvedge section on S3 E5 and see if that helps and if you are still having problems cut out the 1st 2 warp ends and the last 2 warp ends so you have 2 per dent on the selvedge. So many ways to approach the selvedge and it is good to see different ways of coping. Let us know how you make out.
Cheers,
Jane
Hello all - I am not quite to season 3, E7 yet, but I am just bursting to learn the double double skills and try out the Shetland wool. In anticipation, I have a question about the reed. I have a 10 dent reed and understand how to sley it to 8 per inch, but I wondered if its *better* in this case to order an 8 dent reed. I'm so excited about this project that I will likely show it to all my friends, wear it everywhere even in the summer, sleep in it (Ha! just kidding... maybe) . Thanks
Well heck, if you're going to wear it everywhere and sleep in it, I'd get an 8, LOL.
It will be easier on the warp seeing you have to double the ends per inch ...so an 8 dent reed with 2 per dent would be easier on the warp than the 10 :) Hope that makes sense.
It does make sense - thanks. Ann
I have a Double Width Shetland blanket on my David 3 right now. I am using an old pattern from Handwoven and it calls for 10 epi...so it's threaded 2 per dent in a 10 dent reed. I can tell you, it's a tight fit. Pretty sure going forward, on the next blanket I will go with 8 epi and an 8 dent reed.
I am using the Season 3 epi 1 draft for a scarf and making it into a set of curtains (sheers). This room needs 6 sets of curtains, and so as I learn, the tea-towel and scarf drafts are getting modified. I'm just using cotton, so if its a disaster its not the end of the world.
I'm currently using up some cotton in gold (tumeric, maybe?), raspberry, and navy. They are a division of space in 3 , however rather than using Senor Fibonacci, I'm changing colour when I run out! It's a little ironic in that the navy I'm using is left over from Parrot! lol. I'm making on warp with gold/rasp/navy and weft is navy. 2" fringe and starting at the bottom to the top for on curtain; dividing the warp with a left over yarn chunk; then starting from top to bottom on the mate for the curtain, ending with a 2" fringe. If all this works out, the two curtains when hung up will show a symmetrical gradation in colour. (Don't look Jane!! Haha!)
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I think I'm going to love them (or at least love making them!). Although on a table loom without a little track for the shuttle to glide along, I might switch to that stick shuttle thing so that my boat doesn't sink.
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Hi Ann, thank you so much for posting. I know I’m going to love this. Great colour…..let’s see it when you’re finished. ❤️
Ta da..... I have to say that the denting texture reminded me of some old plastic blinds my Granny had in the 1970's (not my fave), but it turns out that I really love these characters :)
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Oh my goodness, they are so beautiful. Well done. Thank you so much for posting your finished curtains. Yay you :)
I received my wool order from JST so quickly!! I was excited to start the shawl on season 3 episode 7, and then I chickened out on the doubleweave. Actually, its probably a good thing I just made the piece 32" wide on my WWII era Mira, as I'm just learning about it, learning about treadles (I've only used a table loom before), and I've never woven wool. The jaws of life might have been required to extract me from this contraption if I had jumped in to the double weave right off the bat.
I'm really having trouble with a nice, even PPI, so I'm glad I just put on a 2 yard warp for this project. I'm probably overthinking the process. My next try will be using the double weave technique.
You’ve got a well experienced loom to get you feeling comfortable on a floor room - if only you could get her to tell you the tales of the yards and yards of cloth she has woven in her life! I think you are wise to just get to know her and what it’s like to weave cloth with treadles first. The warp you have dressed her with is beautiful and would make a nice winter wrap. Keep us posted on how you and Mira are getting along. 😉
Thanks Sandra, thats very kind. :)
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It's beautiful Ann......watch the negative space between the warp ends. When you see it become a square, change you shed and beater back. When I'm trying to gain control of the beater on a light beat fabric I try to tense my forearms and that seems to give me more control.....I don't really know how to explain it other than more tension there and in my hands. It really helps me control the beater. It makes me one with it, 🤣
Thanks - I'll keep trying for sure. :)
Ok, well.... despite my many errors and uneven beating etc, I learned that this wool is very forgiving! I'm really pleased with the wet finished result and I can't wait to try again. I didn't have a fringe twister, so I decided to crochet the fringes instead (I won't be doing that again, ha!) But I love this draft and this yarn!
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Absolutely beautiful. That yarn is very forgiving….it looks fabulous.