I set up this boucle warp using the top of the lamms method and just love it. I am only using 4 but when I get the time I will set up all the rest, which is 12 for me. Thank you so much for sharing all the information with me. The top of the lamms method has been the easiest, so far, and I had a clean shed on the first try. I am a little confused about the treadle set up. I used anchor pins underneath the treadles, which was the most awkward part, and then I used knitting needles through the holes in the texsolv to denote the difference in length from the front of the treadle to the back. But, I don't thing that the knitting needles are actually doing that, because when I press the treadle down there does not seem to be any difference in length. I have to figure that out. Regardless, I have a perfect shed and am weaving. ???? When I do all 12 and use all 12 I will let you know how it works.